Leading with Margin: Why Pace Matters More Than Perfection

In this episode, host Christine Caine sits down with preacher and author Jackie Hill Perry, her husband Nick Caine, and listener Q&A to explore what it really looks like to lead with healthy rhythms. They unpack the myth of balance, the trap of hustle, and why spiritual disciplines—not perfect schedules—are what truly sustain us. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, burned out, or simply stretched too thin, this conversation will bring clarity, conviction, and practical wisdom to help you lead with peace, purpose, and power.

SHOW NOTES:

The Myth of “Having It All”
Christine shares why balance isn’t the goal—health is. She reveals how viewing life as interconnected (not compartmentalized) leads to freedom, not burnout.

Discipline Over Hustle
Jackie Hill Perry gets honest about pruning fruitful things, not just broken ones. Sometimes surrender means letting go of good things for God things.

Spiritual Rhythms > Cultural Metrics
Jackie challenges the constant leaning on podcasts, Google, and quick answers instead of truly inquiring of the Lord.

Seasons Shift, So Should Your Schedule
Christine reflects on motherhood, ministry, and how obedience to God means your rhythm will shift with each season—and that’s okay.

You Need the Holy Spirit More Than a Planner
Nick Caine adds perspective from leadership, marriage, and ministry, reminding us that no system can replace daily dependence on the Spirit.

Follow Jackie Hill Perry at @jackiehillperry and jackiehillperry.com

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